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Interfax interviews Dr. Robert P. Lee

发布: 2007-6-16 14:52 | 作者: 网络转载 | 来源: | 查看: 15次

Achievo Corp. is an international offshore   software   and  information  technology  outsourcing  service provider.  Headquartered  in Silicon Valley, Achievo Corp. has front-end sales and  service  offices  in  the  United  States,  Japan, Canada and Europe,   and  back end  offices  in  China  that  provide  low-cost  IT outsourcing services.

Achievo's customers include Accela, Audi, China Mobile, DaimlerChrysler, Hitachi,  Honda,  Mitsubishi,  Siemens, Toyota, and Vidient. The company employs  approximately  1,600 staff across its global operations, and is currently planning for an initial public offering on the Nasdaq.  Achievo  has  executed  a  series of acquisitions aimed at expanding its business  in  recent  years.  In  May  2005, the company acquired German software  outsourcing  company  ICS Software AG. It then went on acquire ANS Group in Japan in December of the same year.

In February 2006, Achievo acquired Canadian software-outsourcing company NetStar   Solutions   Inc.  It  then  acquired  Taiwan-based  VisualSoft Information System Corp. in March and Shanghai Wintech Software Co. Ltd. in May of  the  same  year.  In  August  2006, the company also acquired Beijing BBX Information Technology Co. Ltd.

Last week,  Interfax talked with Robert Li, chairman and CEO of Achievo, about the  company's  current  operations in the IT outsourcing industry and its plans for the future.

Interfax:  How  many  staff does Achievo employ at the moment and how is the company's business spreading globally

Li: At present,  we have over 1,100 employees in China and 500 employees in various other countries. Almost half of our staff employed in foreign countries  are  located  in Europe and America, while the other half are based in Japan. Our figures  show  that the business is growing quickly. Over 90 percent of the orders  we  receive  are  from foreign countries, and most of our customers  are foreign companies. Through our front-end offices, located in various  locations overseas, we provide most of our services directly to our customers. When broken  down  by  region  - around 30 percent of our business comes from North  America,  40  percent from Japan and 20 percent from Europe. The remaining  10 percent comes from the Greater China region, including Taiwan and Hong Kong.

Interfax: What do you think differentiates Achievo from other Chinese IT outsourcing enterprises?

Li: Firstly, I think we target different markets. While China is home to many good  IT  outsourcing companies, such as Neusoft Group, the largest IT outsourcing  company  in China, and China National Software & Service Co. Ltd.,  they  are very domestically focused. Few of their orders come from Europe  or  America  with most of their orders coming from domestic sources.  We,  on  the  other  hand,  are  an internationally focused IT outsourcing company. Secondly, many of our orders are complete software development projects, while the majority of Chinese IT outsourcing companies are more involved in testing.   We   are  able  to  reap  greater  profits  from  complete development  projects  compared  with testing orders, and in a long run, such projects  enable  us to establish strong working relationships with our customers. Thirdly,  we  have  experienced sales and service staff in our front-end offices  that  can develop good direct relationships with our customers. This is our main competitive advantage that we have acquired through our global acquisitions.  Some of the companies we acquired already had good customer bases, to which we can now provide better services.

Measured  by whichever standard, be it staff numbers or revenues, we are one of the  top  five IT outsourcing enterprises in the China market. In this market, demand is high and success depends on both receiving orders and providing high-quality products.

Interfax:  What  measures can or have you implemented to keep production costs down?

Li: While  some  companies have sent out advertisements around the world saying that  their programmers work for just $10 per hour, we have taken a different approach. We've put more of a focus on reasonable prices for high-quality products and services. We offer  competitive  wages  to  employees.  They  are able to transfer between our offices in the large cities, receive additional training and travel overseas and have opportunities for promotion. We have  sought  to cut costs, not by slashing our employee's wages, but by improving    their   productivity   through   effective   management. Contribution to the company per employee at Achievo is a lot higher than that at  other  Chinese companies. In other words, we are competing with our rivals by using our different business model.

Interfax:  It  has  been argued that while the technical capabilities of Chinese  IT  outsourcing companies have reached international standards, they still  lack  the  skills  and  experience  necessary to effectively communicate with foreign customers. Do you agree?

Li: I agree, and  I  also  think  they  lack management experience too. However,  we  shouldn't  worry  too  much  about  experience.  As the IT outsourcing industry is still relatively new, how could we have a lot of experienced  professionals  working  in  the industry already? There are currently a large number of new graduates coming into the industry every year, and their experience will accumulate over time.

Interfax: Will Achievo continue its global acquisition strategy?

Li: There has been no interruption in our acquisition strategy. While we have also sought to recruit many valuable new employees recently as part of our strategy for growth, our global acquisition plan will continue. We began to develop our acquisition plan around five years ago, and have been very  careful  in  choosing  our  targets.  Our  management has the combined   experience  of  the  acquisition  and  merging  of  over  100 companies. I personally have experience from the acquisition and merging of over  20  companies. We know that acquisitions are important, but the integration  that  follows  can take a long time and can be difficult. I think that  most acquisitions that occur in the software industry cannot be described as "successful". According  to cost considerations, we have also acquired many programmer teams from  other  companies as part of an effort to support our ongoing growth.

Interfax:  How  do you think Chinese and Indian IT outsourcing companies will compete in the global market in the future?

Li: Indian  companies  currently  dominate  the  global  IT  outsourcing market.  No  Chinese  company, including Neusoft or Achievo, can compete with them at present. There's  no  effective  short-term  plan  for catching up with the large Indian companies  though,  the largest of which has 50,000 employees and an employee  base  that  increasing by between 30 percent and 40 percent every year.  Their  annual net additions have surpassed our total number of staff. However,  once  when  it  gets  to the point where we have around 10,000 employees,  and  they  have  around  80,000  employees,  then their size advantage  will  be  negated.  At  that point we will be seen to be "big enough"  for all customers, and the Chinese IT outsourcing industry will be recognized to be at an international level.

Interfax:  You completed a series B round of financing in February. What will the money be used for?

Li: Our  series  A  round  of  financing  was  managed  by the company's founding team five years ago. Because the company was receiving business from the  very  beginning, we haven't needed a lot of capital to support the company's  business  operations.  Our  series  B round of financing, valued at  $24  million,  will be used towards infrastructure and future acquisitions.  We  hope to increase our number of employees to 10,000 in the next  few years, and to achieve year-on-year increases in revenue of 100 percent.

Interfax: What strategies do you currently have for different markets?

Li: Europe and Canada are important battlegrounds. At the moment most of our European  business  comes  from Germany, with a bit from Britain. IT outsourcing  in  Europe  has not developed as quickly as in other places though,  and Indian companies don't have any special language advantages in the region so they're not as dominant there as they are in the United States.  The  Indian  companies  are  also less dominant in the Canadian market, as they have focused mostly on the larger U.S. market. For these reasons we think we have good chances in both Europe and Canada. In the U.S.  market,  Chinese  IT  outsourcing  companies  are presently unable to compete with the Indian companies. From the perspective of the Indian companies,  Chinese  companies  are  little  babies. However, the Indian companies  do  have  a  weakness.  Due  to  the Indian companies' success  and  strong  market  demand, the wages of Indian employees have increased  significantly.  With  such  high demand and a limited pool of possible employees, Indian IT outsourcing workers are now receiving many new employment  offers and options. This has resulted in annual employee
turnover  rates  as  high  as  30  percent  to 40 percent in some cases, something  which makes successful management almost impossible. European and American  customers  unsatisfied  with  the  effects  of  constantly changing  developers  are  beginning  to  look  at  Chinese companies as possible replacements. This weakness is our opportunity in the market.
In regards to Japan, we already have the largest Japanese subsidiary out of all the Chinese IT outsourcing companies. Japan passed through a long period of  ongoing  development after World War II, and their economy is now booming,  despite  suffering  from  a  shortage  of human resources. Chinese  companies  have an advantage when exploiting Japan's market due to the two  countries  similar  cultural  backgrounds. At the same time, China has  the  largest  number  of people who can speak Japanese in the world, excluding  Japan  itself. We would say to our Japanese customers, "We bet  you  can't communicate in Japanese in any other foreign office, except for those in China."

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